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09/22/2018 9:30:31 AM
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Coach Hays, let entertain the idea that we will go to 5 classes next year. Give us your best guess at what the break down will be based on this years' enrollment.
Coach Hays, let entertain the idea that we will go to 5 classes next year. Give us your best guess at what the break down will be based on this years' enrollment.
09/22/2018 10:57:15 AM
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If I were doing it, I would set the bottom of Class 5 at around 1050 and the top of Class 1 at no more than 180. That would put around 64 schools in Class 5 and up to 130 in Class 1. The other 240 schools could be placed in the middle 3 classes in a way that stays under the X2 multiplier. That 1050 number closely mimics what will probably be the TF cutoff this spring for Class 5. I will also note, that since 2000, only 8 times (5 different schools) has a school (not named West Plains) with a 9-12 enrollment of under 1400 (equivalent to the 9-11 numbers of 1050) been on the awards stand. That is 8 times out of a possible 144. The 180 number for the top of Class 1 is close to the number that the CC advisory committee came up with a few years ago. I recommended that and it is close to the Class 1 cutoff we had in 2013. In the end, I do not have a clue what will really happen but thanks for giving me the chance to ramble. One addition, I would also institute what is done in several states that is called the "Put up or shut up rule." If you want to move up a class you should be allowed to do so.
If I were doing it, I would set the bottom of Class 5 at around 1050 and the top of Class 1 at no more than 180. That would put around 64 schools in Class 5 and up to 130 in Class 1. The other 240 schools could be placed in the middle 3 classes in a way that stays under the X2 multiplier.
That 1050 number closely mimics what will probably be the TF cutoff this spring for Class 5. I will also note, that since 2000, only 8 times (5 different schools) has a school (not named West Plains) with a 9-12 enrollment of under 1400 (equivalent to the 9-11 numbers of 1050) been on the awards stand. That is 8 times out of a possible 144.
The 180 number for the top of Class 1 is close to the number that the CC advisory committee came up with a few years ago. I recommended that and it is close to the Class 1 cutoff we had in 2013.
In the end, I do not have a clue what will really happen but thanks for giving me the chance to ramble.
One addition, I would also institute what is done in several states that is called the "Put up or shut up rule." If you want to move up a class you should be allowed to do so.
09/22/2018 5:38:14 PM
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Are the #s you are suggesting based on 3 or 4 classes?.
Are the #s you are suggesting based on 3 or 4 classes?.
09/22/2018 5:57:56 PM
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5 Classes
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09/22/2018 6:34:02 PM
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@zoughaibs 9-11 numbers.
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9-11 numbers.
09/22/2018 6:47:12 PM
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Thanks, Jake. Confusing Class with grade. Samer, the 9-10-11 numbers are all we have now and all we will have in the future.
Thanks, Jake. Confusing Class with grade.
Samer, the 9-10-11 numbers are all we have now and all we will have in the future.
09/22/2018 6:55:56 PM
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Dean, I apologize, I meant to ask 3 grades or 4 not 3 or 4 classes. Chester 1976 caught my mistake. Thanks for the correction and the answer.
Dean,
I apologize, I meant to ask 3 grades or 4 not 3 or 4 classes. Chester 1976 caught my mistake. Thanks for the correction and the answer.
09/22/2018 6:59:43 PM
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So to clarify this we are counting incoming freshman, Soph and Juniors for the year or Soph,Juniors and senior?
So to clarify this we are counting incoming freshman, Soph and Juniors for the year or Soph,Juniors and senior?
09/22/2018 7:19:48 PM
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@zoughaibs 9-11
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09/22/2018 7:46:12 PM
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And next spring at a predetermined date, your 9-10-11 count will determine your school's enrollment numbers for the 2019-2020 school year.
And next spring at a predetermined date, your 9-10-11 count will determine your school's enrollment numbers for the 2019-2020 school year.
09/22/2018 8:44:48 PM
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And, perhaps with a broader starting line, 24 teams to the State Meet like most other States currently do? 3 from each District in 1, 2, 3, 4(?); 6 from each Sectional in 4(?), 5.
And, perhaps with a broader starting line, 24 teams to the State Meet like most other States currently do? 3 from each District in 1, 2, 3, 4(?); 6 from each Sectional in 4(?), 5.
09/22/2018 10:23:33 PM
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@3xcrunners Since they want to hold the NCAA or NCAA regional there, there will have to be more than 30 I believe. However, if expansion goes like I think, sectionals are gone.
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Since they want to hold the NCAA or NCAA regional there, there will have to be more than 30 I believe. However, if expansion goes like I think, sectionals are gone.
09/24/2018 11:01:23 AM
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@Hays I am liking what I am hearing more and more! Let's make this happen!
@Hays I am liking what I am hearing more and more! Let's make this happen!
09/25/2018 11:57:56 AM
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@Hays I know a lot of people on here are "knee-deep" in XC right now, but Coach Hays... any (approximate) idea on the track & field cutoffs for Class 1 and Class 2? Thanks
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I know a lot of people on here are "knee-deep" in XC right now, but Coach Hays... any (approximate) idea on the track & field cutoffs for Class 1 and Class 2? Thanks
09/25/2018 12:04:47 PM
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This what I sent out to MTCCCA membership last week: I have projected the 5A cutoff at 1055, 4A cutoff at 455, 3A cutoff at 237 and 2A cutoff at 131. The lower those projections go, the greater the margin of error as that I do not know all the factors such as who has added programs and who may drop before districts are determined. Districts for track will not be released in December as in the past but this school year on March 8th.
This what I sent out to MTCCCA membership last week:
I have projected the 5A cutoff at 1055, 4A cutoff at 455, 3A cutoff at 237 and 2A cutoff at 131. The lower those projections go, the greater the margin of error as that I do not know all the factors such as who has added programs and who may drop before districts are determined. Districts for track will not be released in December as in the past but this school year on March 8th.

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